1: Britain backs the Japanese in exchange for a port concession, Russia eventually settles for peace and gets the same and that's it.Round 1: What if the Russians tried to conquer it
Round 2: What if the Dutch tried to conquer it
Round 3: What if the British tried to conquer it
Round 4: What if the Germans tried to conquer it
Round 5: What if the French tried to conquer it
Which one was Russia the main rival of?Japan then becomes a protectorate of whichever is the main rival of the empire that tried to conquer it-so if it was the French who tried to conquer, they become a British protectorate, etc. and maintain internal autonomy, although they are probably forced to accept unfair trade deals from the 'protector'.
Prior 1887 I would say the BritishWhich one was Russia the main rival of?
What about 1888 or 1889?Prior 1887 I would say the British
M... Still the British, thing is Germany and Russia were sort of allies until then. Then Russia and Austria-Hungary began to clash over the Balkans and the German kaiser decided to side with Austria-Hungary and throw Russia into French arms. So prior 1887 Russia and Germany were kind of allies, and after 1887 It was Russia and France.What about 1888 or 1889?
I was talking to a historian about a timeline I was working on where the first sino-japanese war started in 1890 (instead of 1894), And he told me that in the timeline I was working on ''Since the first sino-japanese war occurs before the Russo-French alliance was forged that changes a lot'' Is he wrong about something? Did you miss something? Am I missing something?prior to 1887 Russia and Germany were kind of allies, and after 1887 It was Russia and France.
Well, I am an amateur historian far from an expert, and I oversimplified It a lot 😅 Indeed doing a quick research, the French-Russian aliance "was an alliance formed by the agreements of 1891–94", but the French had already being working on improving their relation with Russia at least since the last League of the three emperors concluded... Even so, from 1887 to 1890 there was the Reinsurance Treaty "The treaty provided that both parties would remain neutral if the other became involved in a war with a third great power, with the exception of if Germany attacked France or if Russia attacked Austria-Hungary.".I was talking to a historian about a timeline I was working on where the first sino-japanese war started in 1890 (instead of 1894), And he told me that in the timeline I was working on ''Since the first sino-japanese war occurs before the Russo-French alliance was forged that changes a lot'' Is he wrong about something? Did you miss something? Am I missing something?
1) Russia could conquer Hokkaido, which was largely wilderness inhabited by Ainu, like Sakhalin.
The process was going on even without the American “discovery” so the the international agreements were just a matter of time. Below in the first Japanese steam engine built in 1853 by Hisashige Tanaka on the model of a machine installed on the Russian frigate "Pallada" (Putyatin’s mission).Other powers could get their "Hong Kongs" in Japan
Were Russia & France any closer in 1892 than they were in 1890 or 1891?Well, I am an amateur historian far from an expert, and I oversimplified It a lot 😅 Indeed doing a quick research, the French-Russian aliance "was an alliance formed by the agreements of 1891–94", but the French had already being working on improving their relation with Russia at least since the last League of the three emperors concluded... Even so, from 1887 to 1890 there was the Reinsurance Treaty "The treaty provided that both parties would remain neutral if the other became involved in a war with a third great power, with the exception of if Germany attacked France or if Russia attacked Austria-Hungary.".
So at least until Bismarck is fired in March 20, 1890, I think neither France nor Germany would be openly hostile... They might even support It if they can get something in exchange. The British would try to back the japanese, I am unsure about the americans.
The dutch didnt matter anymore in the xix century
I'm not knowledgeable on Japan during Meiji restoration, but I would assume most powers, barring Britain, would have a tough time conquering the island as a result of Japan's Pacific navy being stronger than theirs.Round 1: What if the Russians tried to conquer it
Round 2: What if the Dutch tried to conquer it
Round 3: What if the British tried to conquer it
Round 4: What if the Germans tried to conquer it
Round 5: What if the French tried to conquer it
if america didn't open up Japan, then the meiji restoration wouldn't have happenedI'm not knowledgeable on Japan during Meiji restoration, but I would assume most powers, barring Britain, would have a tough time conquering the island as a result of Japan's Pacific navy being stronger than theirs.
Also I doubt that the Dutch could really conquer Japan.
Oh I thought that the Meiji restoration began as a result of Japan seeing China being humiliated by the Great Powers.if america didn't open up Japan, then the meiji restoration wouldn't have happened
Read the setup, this would be a Japan with no modern kit at all let alone a Navy.I'm not knowledgeable on Japan during Meiji restoration, but I would assume most powers, barring Britain, would have a tough time conquering the island as a result of Japan's Pacific navy being stronger than theirs.
Also I doubt that the Dutch could really conquer Japan.
Yeah fair enough; I probably should've followed the prompt.Read the setup, this would be a Japan with no modern kit at all let alone a Navy.
In 1892 they signed a convention to provide military aid in case of german attack.Were Russia & France any closer in 1892 than they were in 1890 or 1891?n 1892 with a convention to provide military Aid in case of german attack